I brought my wife in, and although she doesn't have an account here, I read to her a lot of what I read and write here. She is in total agreement with me that we were deceived into thinking that the WTS is something that it is not!
The Last Nephilim
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How many people did you bring into the j.ws & how many to jwd?
by karter incant remember how many i brought in , so far 1 to jwd.
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Were Adam and Eve the only humans created?
by heyfea inmy husband asked me a questions that kind of stumped me for a moment.
he asked, in genesis, when cain killed abel, and god, as punishment cursed him and drove him from the land, making him a restless wanderer, why did cain say to god that the punishment was too hard; that anyone who found him would kill him?
who was going to kill him?
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I don't see any real significance in Eve saying that Seth was born in place of Able. She obviously missed Able, just as any parent would miss any of their children who had died. If you had 2 or 200 children, one of them died, and another of the same gender was born shortly after, would it be unreasonable to feel like the newborn was filling the void left by the deceased one? To me, Eve's statement neither proves that she had no other children between Able and Seth, nor does it prove that Seth was "special" in some way.
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Who did you/do you want to be when you grew up?
by Crumpet inwhen i was 9 i wanted to be daisy duke from the dukes of hazzard, but had to put aside the dream when i realised my legs weren't going to ever get any longer.. when i was 12 i wanted to be ghandi, but realised wars wouldnt stop because i missed breakfast.. when i was 16 i decided that by leaving the borg and living fast and hard enough being alice cooper was achievable.. now i'm 32 i think i'd quite like to have the sensuous, striking confidence and certainty of helen mirren when i grow up.. who did you want to be and why?.
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As a young child, I was going to be the next Kareem Abdul- Jabbar, the next Conan the Barbarian, the next James Hetfield, or the next Rambo. In 8th grade our science teacher went around the room asking each student what he/she wanted to be. I boldly announced that I wanted to be a porn star. I got a paddling.
In 9th & 10th grade I was going to be a Marine Sniper. By the middle of my Junior year that had fizzled because my buddy who was going to go in with me found out that he couldn't be a Sniper due to the corrective lenses he wore. After I took the ASVAB test, the Navy recruiters came to my home to talk my father into letting me sign up for delayed entry (I was only 17). He wouldn't consent, saying that he didn't want to be a part of any decision I might later regret. THANK YOU, DAD! They were going to put me on a nuclear submarine, which at the time sounded cool but I later realized was a drag (underwater for up to 6 months at a time!!!). My senior year in HS I decided I was going to art college. I was going to specialize in metal sculpture. Being from a single parent family on a fixed (disability) income, I was assured full financial aid for at least the first year. That information proved incorrect, as on the third day of orientation I was booted for not having enough cash. The HOPE scholarship was not an option, since I graduated the year BEFORE it was started and as such, I was only eligible for certificate programs, not college degrees. The lady in the business office was in tears when I left. Then I did the stupidest thing in my entire life- I got married to my HS "sweetheart" who was a JW. Long story short, the result was NOT what I had in mind for my life!!!! -
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100,000-year-old Human Skull Found
by Legolas in100,000-year-old skull delights scientists.
chinese researchers hail "greatest discovery since peking man".
beijing - an almost complete human skull fossil that could date back 100,000 years has been unearthed in china, state media said on wednesday, hailing it as the greatest discovery since peking man.. last month's find in xuchang, in the central province of henan, was made after two years of excavation just as two archaeologists were leaving for the lunar new year break, the china daily said.. "we expect more discoveries of importance," li zhanyang, archaeologist with the henan cultural relics and archaeology research institute, was quoted as saying.. the fossil consists of 16 pieces of the skull with protruding eyebrows and a small forehead.. "more astonishing than the completeness of the skull is that it still has a fossilized membrane on the inner side, so scientists can track the nerves of the paleolithic ancestors," li was quoted as saying.. besides the skull, more than 30,000 animal fossils, and stone and bone artifacts were found.. "the pieces of the human skull showed up just when archaeologists were going home for the spring festival," the newspaper said, referring to the new year holiday which officially begins next month.. peking man was discovered in the 1920s near beijing and dates back roughly to between 250,000 and 400,000 years.. http://www.thestar.com/sciencetech/article/296725.
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"...One of the reasons we know that the earth is less than 50,000 years old is because of the biblical record...
...Humans are naturally biased. We tend to see what we want to see, and explain away unwanted data..."
This is why the article in the link posted by jaguarbass(and hence, the bible) is no more believable than carbon-14 dating or the scientists who use it. -
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100,000-year-old Human Skull Found
by Legolas in100,000-year-old skull delights scientists.
chinese researchers hail "greatest discovery since peking man".
beijing - an almost complete human skull fossil that could date back 100,000 years has been unearthed in china, state media said on wednesday, hailing it as the greatest discovery since peking man.. last month's find in xuchang, in the central province of henan, was made after two years of excavation just as two archaeologists were leaving for the lunar new year break, the china daily said.. "we expect more discoveries of importance," li zhanyang, archaeologist with the henan cultural relics and archaeology research institute, was quoted as saying.. the fossil consists of 16 pieces of the skull with protruding eyebrows and a small forehead.. "more astonishing than the completeness of the skull is that it still has a fossilized membrane on the inner side, so scientists can track the nerves of the paleolithic ancestors," li was quoted as saying.. besides the skull, more than 30,000 animal fossils, and stone and bone artifacts were found.. "the pieces of the human skull showed up just when archaeologists were going home for the spring festival," the newspaper said, referring to the new year holiday which officially begins next month.. peking man was discovered in the 1920s near beijing and dates back roughly to between 250,000 and 400,000 years.. http://www.thestar.com/sciencetech/article/296725.
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"...One of the reasons we know that the earth is less than 50,000 years old is because of the biblical record...
...Humans are naturally biased. We tend to see what we want to see, and explain away unwanted data..."
This is why the article (and hence, the bible) is no more believable than carbon-14 dating or the scientists who use it. -
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Evolution is a religious teaching
by lrkr ini kid you not.
page 16 of 1/1/08 wt.
"although evolution is usually presented in scientific language, it is really a religious doctrine.".
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Maybe news of the real world is finally reaching the inside of the org and they're realizing how much sense evolution makes, how much physical evidence there is to support it, and how widespread the knowledge of it is in the general population. Thus, they need to find a way to make it work with their teachings and skew it to their religion's advantage, that way no one can question the org about it.
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Universal Issue of Sovereignty Does NOT Exist....Proof......
by oompa inwe are taught that the $hit mankind has endured for thousands of years is because satan said something that could be construed to be bad about god, and so god said...."let's let mankind see if they are better off following satan and leading themselves, or following me.
" now thousands of years later, this universal issue is still not settled...after all...the angles and demons are waiting with baited breath for the end result.. do you think that just because you were taught since youth that this "universal sovereignty issue" is real, it is?
i have some real good biblical reasons this is not even an issue.............................................oompa.
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IMO, if it is an issue, it is only an issue to humans. The bible tells us that the demons do not question God's sovereignty, as illustrated by the dialog between Jesus and a few demons he encountered (Mat 8:29, James 2:19). If demons recognize that Jesus is God's son and that he is to torment them at some point, then who is God proving the issue of Universal sovereignty to? The angels who did NOT rebel against him? No, they are privy to the same if not more knowledge as the demons. The only ones left are humans! And we all know that the bible says that we need God because we can't figure things out on our own (Jer 10:23), so only people who don't believe the bible (according to the bible) are the only ones who do not recognize God's sovereignty! So why is he trying to prove his sovereignty to them? Not to mention that he makes those who acknowledge His sovereignty suffer right along with those who don't, which proves nothing! Makes no sense to me!
I'll illustrate it this way; Your neighbor is your best friend (Jehovah), and has a pair of trained attack dogs (Satan, demons) that he doesn't want anymore. He tells everyone that the dogs will attack at will until he gives the command not to. If anyone else happens to give the right command, they may or may not listen. He lets these dogs run loose in the neighborhood knowing that all of his friends, including you, must come and go on a daily basis. If the dogs are nearby, this will be extremely difficult! If not, you might make it for the day. All of the people in His household (Jesus, angels) are protected from these attacks by various means, and all know the precise commands and tones of voice to use to control the dogs. To beat it all, you have seen these dogs viciously attack your other friends relentlessly until they were begging for your best friend to command them to stop, but all he does is try to coach the person to defend themselves amidst all the noise and stress and pain, saying, "I'm proving a point". Years go by and the dog attacks continue, some even turning out fatal for the victim, all the while your Best friend watches every attack and does nothing. Then a point in time comes when He bans the dogs from coming onto His property (Satan banished to earth) by building a fence around his property and leaving the neighbors to fend for themselves, leaving only a written copy of how to try to resist the dogs (bible). At some point he says he will call off the dogs and send them to the pound to be put to death once and for all so everyone can live in peace.
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Haven't been this excited in a while...
by The Last Nephilim inmy sis sent me a link to overstock.com listing c of c on sale for $10!
i have searched before and never saw it that cheap, so i finally bought it.
$13 and some change with shipping.
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My sis sent me a link to Overstock.com listing C of C on sale for $10! I have searched before and never saw it that cheap, so I finally bought it. $13 and some change with shipping. Got my tracking number this morning- hope it gets here this afternoon or tomorrow! Looks like I've got some reading to do!!! =)
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What Bible do you use?
by OMG! Now What? inin my new search for truth, i'm back to my old routine of getting my 7+ different bibles out and comparing them all.
which one have you chosen, if at all, and why?
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Interesting verse at Judges 1:19, Lore!
As far as what bible I use, I tend to do everything on my PC, so I have the WT Library CDROM but I also heavily use the e-Sword program. It has Strong's Dictionary of Greek and Hebrew words as well as tons of different bible translations, some with Strong's numbers, some without. I recently got the NWT on e-Sword, too, which makes it even less necessary to open the WT Library! Between my e-Sword and my bookshelf, I have some 50+ copies of the bible, although a few are in Latin, Greek, or some other language I don't understand (came free on e-Sword). e-Sword itself is free, I highly recommend it! Go to e-sword.net, and be sure to put the - in there because there is a site called esword.net that is the WRONG one! -
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I just stumped our PO!!!
by The Last Nephilim ini have never seen this guy stumped on a bible topic or point before, but history was made today!!!
he and a soon-to-be elder were doing a shepherding call on my wife and i because we've missed weeks worth of meetings and had no service time for dec. he went through the usual lectures about how we're cutting off jehovah by missing meetings (because we all know god won't lift a finger for those who don't go to meetings, right?
) he gave some good illustrations- the guy really is a good teacher, it's just what he's teaching that's questionable.
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Primitive- Don't bite my head off!!! I thought he was asking about the one I have, the newer, blue one, not the older, purple one! Take it easy, killer!!!!